Dr. Kelley Gets Cancer
by Dr. Gonzalez:

I'm going to talk about cancer today, particularly about William Donald Kelley. Now for Dr. Kelley, cancer began with eye problems.  He was riding down the road in his antique Cadillac he called "Twinkles," and he noticed he was having trouble seeing street signs. He was 35 years old and had perfect vision up to that point.  He didn't pay much attention to it.

But over the ensuing months, his vision got progressively worse.  He went to his ophthalmologist, who said, "Look, you're 35 years old, you're nearsighted, you need glasses."  Well, that wasn't too big a deal, but about three months later, he noticed as he was working on his patients (Kelley was an orthodontist, he did a lot of close work in patients' mouths), and he noticed that he had trouble seeing the teeth clearly in his patients and doing the intricate work with pliers.  So he went back to his ophthalmologist, who said, "This is kind of interesting, you need bifocals."  Now, this didn't sit too kindly on Kelley's soul, he thought 35 years old was too young for bifocals, but he wore them. And they seemed to work well for about three months, and then he noticed that with bifocals he could see the far distance well and he could read, and he could do his intricate work in his patients' mouths, but the intermediate distances were getting kind of fuzzy.

This was unusual, so he went back to his ophthalmologist, who said, "You need trifocals. This is the first time I've ever had a patient who needed trifocals." This was a blow to Dr. Kelley. Just about the time he needed trifocals, he started developing muscle cramps.  Initially, they weren't too serious. They were in his arms, and he figured this was because he was spending twelve hours a day working hunched over his patients.  But the pains got progressively worse. They were like severe charley-horses in his arms. Then they evolved to his legs, and pretty soon he was getting terrible chest pains-- in fact, he ended up in the local emergency room three times with terrible chest pains, thinking it was a heart attack. But his EKGs were normal, so he went to his local doctor, who just suggested that he was working too hard and needed to take some time off.  Kelley did that, but the pains didn't get any better.

And just about the time that he was having trouble with his muscle pains, his hair started to fall out.  Kelley had a thick head of hair and baldness did not run in his family, so at age 35 when his hair started to fall out, this was serious. So he went back to his doctor, and the doctor said, "Well, this is just stress and aging, there's nothing you can do about it."

Now, about the time his hair started to fall out, Kelley developed a severe, cataclysmic depression.  Now, Kelley had never been depressed a day in his life.  This was a man who worked 14 hours a day as an orthodontist, loved his work, had a wonderful family, four kids - all adopted and he loved dearly, a good wife, he was very active in community affairs, he just wasn't a depressed type. He had never been depressed, and now suddenly he would wake up in the morning with crying spells.

Kelley wasn't interested in his work, wasn't interested in his family, he thought about chucking orthodonture to go live in the mountains of Colorado. This is very unusual for him.  He went to his doctor and begged for anti-depressants, but the doctor said “No, you're just working too hard, you have to take some more time off”. So, Kelley took more time off, and the depression got worse.  Just about the time he was starting to feel suicidal, his belly suddenly expanded overnight, and he went to his doctor, who said, "You have to go into the hospital."

Dr. Kelley was very well known in the Texas community where he lived, and they called in all the local surgeons and gastroenterologists, and the surgeon took one look at this man and said, "This guy's got terminal cancer."

This was about 1964 and in those days, they didn't have sophisticated CAT-scans or ultrasounds. They just had simple ultrasound and X-ray equipment. They did a whole series of X-rays and found that there were lesions in his lungs that looked like metastatic disease - a huge tumor in his right hip and his liver was three times its normal size.  It appeared that he had a pancreatic tumor that had metastasized very quickly.  The surgeon said he was too sick for surgery. The doctors told his wife Kelley had four to six to eight weeks to live.

That was the bad news, but the news got even worse.  His wife handled this sudden occurrence by packing up and leaving. Leaving Dr. Kelley with four young kids and dying of cancer.  Now, Dr. Kelley did what any sane man would do in a circumstance like that.  He called his mother.

Dr. Kelley's mother, Velma, is an unusual character, and I've talked about her before in my other lectures.  You'd have to meet Mama Kelley to really appreciate her.   She raised three sons on a dirt poor, Kansas farm, 80 acres, during the Depression.  Her husband died of a heart attack leaving her with three kids, and she got them through college and graduate school.  Kelley's older brother is a very famous dental surgeon, and his younger brother is an expert on Robert Browning the poet, in fact Professor Kelley runs the Browning Foundation and is world renowned for his work. And of course, then there's this "crazy" Dr. Kelley the cancer doctor.

Kelley called his mother and said, "Look, I have a problem," and she said, "What's the problem?" and he said, "Well, I've just been told I have six weeks to live, I've got four young kids and my wife left me.  What am I going to do?"

Well, his mother got very angry with him.  She said, "What you're going to do is you're going to get over your cancer. Those kids are adopted.  If you die, those kids are going back to the orphanage. I'm not going to take them, I've already raised three kids, so you're going to get well."

Kelley said to his mother, "That's absolutely and totally impossible.  I've had the best doctors in Texas tell me I have four to six to eight weeks to live with terminal pancreatic cancer."  His mother said, "Nonsense."  That day she got on a plane and flew down to Texas and walked into Kelley's house to get him well.

Now how did Mama Kelley approach Dr. Kelly's terminal prognosis?  Well, the first thing she did was take all the food in his cupboards and throw it away.  Kelley was probably the preeminent connoisseur of junk food that I ever knew.  He knew the ingredients of every brand of chocolate bar, and he basically lived on Fritos and chocolate bars for years. So it wasn't too surprising that at the age of 36 he would develop terminal cancer.  His mother was a very wise woman.  She'd grown up on the land, had grown up on the farm, had raised farm animals and raised her kids according to very natural principals and good healthy food.

The first thing she did was go to the local health food store and load up on fresh fruits, fresh vegetables, nuts, seeds, whole grains, no animal protein.  And from that day she put her son on a very rigorous diet, a complete vegetarian diet, a complete raw foods diet, consisting of nothing but fresh fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, grains, beans, sprouted beans, that sort of thing.  Absolutely no animal protein, no fish, no poultry, no red meat, no dairy products, no nothing.

This was a very difficult diet for Dr. Kelley to follow, because he liked Big Macs, he loved Hershey bars, he loved Fritos, but his mother wouldn't allow those things in the house, so he had no choice but to do it.  To his absolute total astonishment, two weeks passed and then four weeks passed, and he felt a little stronger. Six weeks passed, eight months passed and he didn't die. Three months passed and his mother walked into his bedroom one morning and said, "Okay, three months have passed, you're getting better, it's time for you to go back to work."

He said, "Now, wait a minute, I have terminal pancreatic cancer."  She said, "You've got four kids who've got to eat, and your wife emptied out your bank account. So, you're going to work whether you want to or not," and from that day he started seeing his patients again.  He'd see a patient, sleep for about fifteen minutes, see a patient, then sleep for about fifteen minutes.  The miracle was first that he wasn't dead, and secondly, that he really was getting better.

Now Dr. Kelley is a true scientist in the tradition of true scientists.  Scientists are different from the rest of us because they ask questions that the rest of us would be too lazy or too crazy to ask.  He said, "I cannot believe that my mother is the first person in the history of the world who figured out that a diet of raw foods, nuts and grains, as horrible as it is, can stabilize cancer.” He said, “I can't believe that she's that smart.”  So he went to his local library, he was feeling kind of feisty, so he went to the library to see what he could find.

Fortunately, Dr. Kelley's local library had a copy of Max Gerson's 1959 book called FIFTY CASES.  Gerson was an interesting character in medical history. He was a very prominent German physician who during the forties and fifties developed his own personal approach to degenerative diseases involving primarily a diet of raw foods, nuts, seeds, grains, and lots of fresh vegetables juices:  8- 10 glasses a day.  With this approach, Gerson had great success with a whole range of degenerative diseases, including cancer.  During the thirties with the advent of Nazism, Gerson, being Jewish, left Germany and came to New York and set up his own clinic where for about a twenty year period he continued to have a fair amount of success using this particular diet.

Gerson hypothesized that meat was somehow toxic to the human body and toxic to the liver, and raw fruits and raw vegetables helped the body clean out, stimulated the liver and made the immune system work better. He wasn't too sure of the science, but he did know that the results were good.  He published this information in 1959.  Kelley was a little ecstatic about this because it provided confirmation that the diet he was on really did have the possibility to work.

Kelley got progressively stronger over a three to six month period, but he had stabilized.  He was lucky, as I like to say, he was lucky in a very unlucky way.  He was unlucky, of course, because he had pancreatic cancer.  But he was lucky in that he had such bad cancer that the tumors protruded from his liver and he could feel them, so he could really monitor his own progress.  He knew that when he got lazy on the diet, which he occasionally did, that his tumors would grow within days. And he knew that if he stuck to the diet religiously, those tumors would regress.  So he had his own 'tumor marker' sitting right there on his belly since he could feel these tumors.  This was very fortunate.  But about during the sixth, seventh month, those tumors didn't shrink any more.  And just about the time those tumors stopped shrinking, Kelley developed severe digestive problems.

The problem with pancreatic cancer is that it destroys the pancreas.  Well, we know that the pancreas does: it produces insulin and it produces digestive enzymes.  Without those digestive enzymes, you can't digest food.  One of the most common serious problems with patients with any kind of pancreatic disease, whether it be cancer or pancreatitis, is severe digestive problem: bloating, gas, nausea, vomiting, the dumping syndrome, constipation--they just can't digest and utilize their nutrients properly.

Kelley figured there had to be a simple solution to this so he went to his local pharmacy and talked to the druggist who was a good friend of his, who said, "That's no big deal, just use some pancreatic enzymes."  He pulled out a bottle of vibrant pancreatic enzymes, we're talking 1964, he said, “Take these, they'll provide the enzymes that your own pancreas isn't producing, a very simple solution, it'll take care of the gas and the bloating.”  Kelley, if nothing else, was a man of excess, and if he was going to buy one bottle of the pancreatic enzymes, he was going to buy a hundred. So he bought about ten cases of these enzymes, and that day he started taking them.

He started taking three with meals then four with meals then five with meals and after about three days, he was taking about fifty capsules of pancreatic enzymes with each meal.  And he noticed that something began to happen in his gut.  Every time he took a dose of enzymes, there was a twinge of pain in the areas of the tumor in his liver.  After a couple of weeks on these enzymes, he began to notice that these tumors seemed to actually be softening.  In fact, he began to believe that after this period of the stabilization on the diet, they were actually shrinking, and dissolving.  He said, "This doesn't make any sense.  I take these enzymes, and within half an hour of taking them I feel some pain, some gnawing, something going on in these areas of tumor, but those enzymes are destroyed in the gut. I can't conceive how this is possible. I don't see what these pancreatic enzymes would have to do with those tumors in my liver."

Kelley went back to his local library.  Again, Kelley being a scientist, he was never satisfied without finding an answer.  He looked up pancreatic enzymes by doing a literature search. And he was fortunate to find a name in the literature, Dr. John Beard, probably one of the most eminent men of the twentieth century and one of the least known men of the twentieth century.  John Beard was an eminent embryologist working out of the University of Edinburgh in the 1880s, 1890s and around the turn of the century.

Dr. Beard, like Kelley, started out with no interest in cancer whatsoever.  He was an embryologist, who was interested in comparative embryology, particularly in the placenta.  His area of expertise was the placenta.  Now we know what the placenta is.  After fertilization in the mammal, the embryo produces an organ called the placenta which literally eats into the mother's uterus.  It serves as an anchor to the growing fetus and it also serves as the connection between the blood supply of the mother which means nutrients to the baby. and the waste products to the baby. There's a point of connection between the blood supplies of the baby and the mother. That's how the baby is fed and that's how the baby gets rid of its waste materials.

Beard was a smart man and he noticed that in the mammalian species that he studied, and he studied dozens, that the placenta would grow into the uterus and would grow and grow and grow and at a particular time in every species, it would suddenly stop growing.  In mice it was ten days, in humans 56 days, in every human embryo, virtually to the day, 56 days and that placenta would stop growing, in elephants it was something like 300 days.

Beard was particularly interested in this because he realized something unusual about the placenta, and he was the first person to make this observation, but not the last.  He saw the placenta as kind of like a tumor, because indeed it does behave like a tumor.  The placenta is a piece of tissue that invades the mother's uterus, much as a tumor would invade the mothers' uterus.  Now usually, the placenta reaches a certain point of growth, and stops.  But sometimes it doesn't, and in women where the placenta doesn't stop growing, they develop a very serious cancer called chorliocarcinoma that used to be one of the most aggressive cancers around. Fortunately, there is a chemotherapeutic agent, methotrexate, that really does knock it out and now 80 to 90% of these women can be cured.  Prior to the advent of methotrexate, it was a very, very deadly disease.

So, there was a tradition of the placenta behaving like a tumor, and Beard was aware of this. And he made the connection in his own mind. He said, "If I could figure out why the placenta stops growing at a certain point, 56 days in a mother, maybe I could figure out a way to stop tumors from growing."  It was a great leap of faith, and it led to ten years of research.  What he did is, in a variety of animal studies, he investigated the growth and development of every organ system there was - the tissue of the organs, trying to find some connection between the development in the embryo and the cessation of growth in the placenta.

It took him ten years before he hit upon the fact that the only connection that existed, the only thing that changed, for example, day 56 in humans, 10 in the mice, day 300 in the elephants, was the day the placenta stopped growing, the embryonic pancreas started to work.  There was no other connection.  That's kind of an interesting concept, because embryos don't really need a pancreas.  They get all the nutrition they need from their mother's blood supply. They don't need digestive enzymes, they get them for free right from the mother's blood supply. They don't have to chew it or digest it in fact, their digestive system really does not function. It is not needed until the day they're born, and they start eating through their mouths. Again on day 56, which is pretty [rare] in embryonic development, the placenta started working - it started producing pancreatic enzymes. Beard said, “Listen, what possible function could these pancreatic enzymes have other than to stop the placenta from growing?  And if indeed they do stop the placenta from growing perhaps, they could stop tumors from growing! “

In November of 1904, Beard presented his hypothesis that pancreatic enzymes represent the main defense against cancer, not the immune system or any other system. He presented it before the Edinburgh Scientific Society. He was almost universally laughed at, and I said almost universally laughed at because there was one very bright army surgeon in the audience who was a cancer specialist. Of course in 1904 there was no cancer therapy other than surgery, and this guy had seen a lot of his patients die. He was willing to listen to anybody, even this crazy embryologist out of Edinburgh who proposed that pancreatic enzymes could cure cancer.

After the lecture, and all the booing and the throwing of tomatoes, this army surgeon went up to see Beard, and said, "I'd like to try your therapy.  So Beard and the army surgeon developed some injectable pancreatic enzymes.  The first case documented in the medical literature was metastatic laryngeal cancer.  Now even today, laryngeal cancer is a really nasty disease.  It doesn't have a real good prognosis.  This patient had metastatic disease where he had a huge tumor sitting in his throat.  The Army Captain injected the enzymes with Beard's assistance over a period of two weeks, and in two weeks that tumor was just thrown up by this patient. They documented it, and it was dead.

This was the first documented case of a patient apparently cured by the use of injectable pancreatic enzymes.  It was published in the British Medical Journal and caused an enormous controversy.  The usual controversy - the patient didn't have cancer, the results were faked, that wasn't really a tumor, the same things that we hear today.  A number of doctors, however, did get interested in Beard's work and over the following years about thirty or fifty papers were published in medical journals, both in the U.S. and in Europe documenting the regression of tumors and in fact some cures, with the use of injectable pancreatic enzymes.

Now you say “that's wonderful but why didn't Beard's work take hold it if was so wonderful?”  In fact, in 1911, Beard published a book called "The Enzyme Theory of Cancer," and I think that only about 15 people ever bothered to read it. The reason is that just about the time he published his book, Madame Curie announced that radiation was a safe, non-toxic cure for virtually all cancer.

Madame Curie had a fabulous reputation...and had done wonderful work with radiation. She proposed at that time that radiation was perfectly safe.  It would take a generation of radiation oncologists to die from leukemia before we realized that it wasn't as safe as she thought it was.  She also was mistaken to believe it would be useful against virtually all cancer.  There are very few cancers that are radiation sensitive for any prolonged period of time.

However, Madame Curie sold her work in the world's press that this was the answer to cancer.  Thus Beard's work was forgotten, and then he died in about 1920, he died in obscurity. His enzyme therapy was forgotten until Dr. Kelley in 1964 because of the use of pancreatic enzymes given to him by his local pharmacist began to suspect that those enzymes were getting rid of that tumor in his gut.

Kelley realized that there was one problem - Beard said the enzymes had to be injected, that they would be destroyed in the gut.  In fact, every medical and dental student who has ever gone through dental or medical school in the U.S. or any other country was taught that all ingested pancreatic enzymes are wonderful digestive aids, but they're destroyed in the gut. They are not absorbed active and intact in the gut - that doesn't happen. Kelley was taking the enzymes orally, and he said, “Wait a minute.  Beard said they have to be injected.  I'm taking them orally and I know something is going on here.”

Kelley went back to the literature.  Lo and behold, in the 1930 and 1940s, there were a whole series of wonderful experiments documenting that oral ingested pancreatic enzyme in both human and animal studies are absorbed active and intact in the gut and do serve wider physiological functions.  The easiest way to document this is with a 24 hour urine collection.  Feed a patient a huge amount of pancreatic enzymes then collect urine for 24 hours, and you can see how much of those enzymes are going to be excreted in the urine.  It turns out that virtually 100% of what you take orally comes out in the urine, not in the intestinal tract, which means they have to be absorbed.  With that problem resolved, Kelley began to think about the raw diet he'd been on.

Now remember, his Kelley's therapy began with his mother's vegetarian diet: fruits, vegetables, seeds, nuts, grains, all raw, lots of juices.  He said," I wonder why that diet stabilized me initially?"  He was kind of taken by this idea of Beard's enzyme theory, he said, "You know, raw food is a wonderful thing, it's got lots of vitamins and minerals and trace elements and it's loaded with nutrients, and this of course is widely recognized."  He said, 'When you cook food", and his mother insisted that the food had to be raw, "when you cook food, you don't really destroy too many of the vitamins and minerals and trace elements - most vitamins and minerals and trace elements are not sensitive to heat."

So Kelley said, “Why does this diet have to be a raw diet?  Why did Max Gerson use a raw diet?  What is it about raw food that helps cancer patients?”  And he kept thinking and thinking and thinking and thinking, and he said, well the vitamins and minerals and trace elements are not destroyed by heat.  What is destroyed by heat?  The only thing destroyed by heat are enzymes.  Raw food is loaded with enzymes; it's just packed with enzymes.  Every cell in everybody has at least 50 thousand enzymes, so when you eat raw food, you're getting a load of enzymes.  When you cook food, you get nothing.  Enzymes are heat sensitive.  They're destroyed and inactivated at about 118 degrees Fahrenheit.

So, when we cook food, we don't destroy the vitamins and minerals, but you destroy every enzyme in every cell in that food. It's an important concept when you think about.  We're the only species in the history of the world--you know, one billion years of life and evolution-- that cooks its food.  Every other species of animal eats raw food except for us.  We're so bright that we decided that cooking food is better. We decided that--some anthropologists will tell you that 50,000 years ago, some say a couple of hundred thousand years ago, we started to cook food.  It tastes better when you cook it.  If you give a dog some raw food or cooked food, it's going to eat the cooked food.  But if you eat cooked food, you don't get any enzymes.  Kelley was thinking about this, and he said, "You know, I just can't believe that I'm the only person in the history of the world who ever thought about the fact that when you cook food you do something profound like destroy all the enzymes and that might have an effect on health."

So, he went back to the library.  Lo and behold, he learned about the work of Edward Howell.  Howell was a doctor who graduated from the University of Illinois Medical School in about 1920. A brilliant doctor, great career, except for one thing--he was sick as a dog.   I guess maybe if he were alive today, he'd be diagnosed as having chronic fatigue syndrome. He was depressed, he was weak and dizzy, he couldn't get out of bed.  No interest in his work.  He was fatigued, he had fevers, chills and sweats.

Now when a doctor's sick, it's scary.  Doctors always go to the best doctor and try to find out the best answer for what they've got. So, he went everywhere, from Columbia to Presbyterian to the Mayo Clinic. And they told him, "There's nothing wrong with you, you're just too stressed, you don't really want to be a doctor, you need a psychiatrist."  Even in 1920, they were telling people that.

He didn't like that answer, he'd spent his whole life learning to be a doctor. Here he was 24 years old with a medical degree and unable to function.  Out of desperation--believe me, nobody ever goes to the natural therapists as first choice, they go out of desperation--Howell ended up in a spa run by a naturopath.  The naturopath took one look at Howell and said, “You're going on a diet of raw foods.  Raw foods meaning vegetables, fruits, seeds, nuts, and grains.”  And now Kelley learned about three different people coming up with the same diet.

Howell was too sick to ask questions.  He wasn't thinking very clearly.  He went on the diet because he was desperate, and in three months he was virtually completely well.  As he got better, he felt strong enough to ask questions, and he asked this wonderful old naturopath, "What is it about raw food that got me well?" And the guy gave him one answer: Enzymes.

In 1920, we didn't know too much about enzymes.  We knew some.  Enzymes are catalysts.  They enable reactions to occur in biological systems with a minimum input of energy.  You know, there are reactions that occur in the human cell that if it weren't for enzymes would require 1-2 thousand degrees Centigrade: we would disappear in a puff of smoke.  Enzymes allow reactions to occur with a minimum amount of heat and energy input.  They increase the efficiency of both biological and nonbiological chemical reactions.  "When you cook food", this naturopath said, "you don't destroy the vitamins and the minerals and the trace elements, you don't destroy the fat and the protein: there's as much fat in a cooked McDonald's as there is in raw beef.   But you destroy the enzymes."

He told Howell what was known, that all biological enzymes are inactivated above 118 degrees.  Well, that struck Howell as a pretty profound concept, and he made the same connection that Kelley made forty years later -  that we were the only species of animal in the history of the world that cooks its food, and that might have a profound effect on our health.  We all know about the vitamins, minerals, trace elements, proteins, fats and carbohydrates. We never think about the enzymes in food. Howell perceived, and so did his naturopath, and so did Kelley forty years later, that the enzymes in food may be the single most important nutrient in food: the nutrients being required for repairing or rebuilding the damaged tissue, for preventing disease--after all it was enzymes that are the metabolic machinery.  And those enzymes may be used in the body for repair and rebuilding.

Certainly, Gerson’s work and Kelley's own diet that he was following courtesy of his mother, prove that there was something in raw food that could lead to health.  And it had to be the enzymes.  Howell spent fifty years of his life documenting the effects of raw foods on human health.  His studies are absolutely profound.  He's probably like Beard, one of the most brilliant men of the 20th Century, and like Beard probably one of the least well known because he was outside the orthodoxy and nobody paid any attention to him.

By now, Dr. Kelley was doing pretty well.  Had his diet down, he had his enzymes down, he understood raw foods, he understood pancreatic enzymes, and he was doing well.  He was nine months into his therapy, the tumor was regressing, he was working nine hours a day seeing patients.  Everything was going well.

And then he started to get sick.  He woke up one day feeling tired, he canceled his patients and stayed in bed.  The next day he felt worse - tired, fatigue and he thought he was getting the flu.  He asked his mother. His mother said, "Just stay on the diet, stay on the enzymes." His mother was a pretty tough character. She said, "You just keep doing the program."  The third day he was sicker.  The fourth day he started vomiting.  This was a bit scary, because he would take one of his doses of fifty capsules of enzymes and would throw them up immediately.

Kelley was a tough character.  He'd take the fifty pills again and he'd throw them up again. He had this big battle with his stomach, and by the end of the day, he gave up.  He said, "I just have intestinal flu, I'll stay off the pills."  So he stayed off the pills two or three days and he started to feel better.  He said, "Okay, I can go back on my pills."  And yet he was scared. He knew if he stayed off those enzymes, those tumors were going to grow.  So after three or four days he felt fine, then suddenly he started getting sick again.  He felt tired, then fatigued and lethargic, with fevers, chills sweats.  And the fourth day on these enzymes, he started throwing up his guts.

This was kind of scary, again, because those pancreatic enzymes were his life-line and without them he was going to die.  He had four young kids and if he died, they were going back to the orphanage, they had no other options.  Kelley stayed off the enzymes a couple of days and felt better.  But as he stayed off the pills--and remember, Kelley was lucky in a very unlucky way because he had his own tumor marker sticking out of his belly--if he stayed off the enzymes those tumors started to grow.  He didn't like that too much.

On the enzymes, they'd start to shrink ,but he'd get sick. When off the enzymes, the tumors would grow, but he'd feel better.  When on the enzymes, the tumors would shrink, but he'd feel sick.  "This doesn't make sense," he said.  "On the enzymes, the tumors are going away, I should feel better.  When off the enzymes, the tumors grow, and I should feel worse.  On the enzymes, when the tumors break down, I feel sicker."

He kept thinking about this, Kelley being a scientist, stayed up day after day after day.  Kelley was a wonderful man.  When he had a problem--I lived in his house for a year and a half and there were a lot of unsolved problems--and I can remember days when he wouldn't let me sleep because some problem had to be thought about.  I need about six or seven hours a night.  He got about thirty minutes, so it was a pretty difficult thing to be around him physiologically.  Also, psychologically and spiritually.

Kelley was trying to figure out this problem of why he felt worse when the tumors broke down. One night, in the middle of the nigh at 3 o'clock in the morning, he finally figured it out.  He said, "I know what's happening!  Tumor wastes are making me sick.  Tumor wastes are poisonous!  That's what it is!"  And a light went off.  He said, "A lot of the symptoms that people are getting on chemo" --now back in 1964 we didn't have a lot of the chemotherapy agents but we certainly had chemo and people certainly got sick on it--Kelley said, "It's the darned tumor breaking down. I bet that's why people get sick from the treatment for cancer, as the tumor breaks down they get poisoned by tumor waste."

Kelley said nothing, absolutely nothing on earth is more toxic to the cancer patient than dead tumor waste.  That was his statement.  And it seemed to be true.  When he was off the enzymes, when the tumor would be growing, he'd feel better.  When on the enzymes, he'd feel sick.  He had a lot of symptoms.  Fevers to 103, chills, sweats, almost like a very severe anaphylactic sickness like response, muscle aches and pains. He said, "It was the tumor waste!"

Now, that led to another investigation.  Kelley was looking for some way to help the body get rid of tumor waste.  And he went through the medical literature. He had to find some way, because he had to increase the efficiency of the program. He had to find a way for the patient, in this case himself, to stay on those enzymes because those pills were the life-line. Well, he went through a number of medical journals and a number of medical text books and the thing that kept coming back to him was the thing that raises the eyebrows of the orthodox colleagues more than anything. And you will probably laugh when I mention it, and that's the coffee enemas.

Nothing in the history of the world has generated more controversy than coffee enemas. Kelley learned about coffee enemas ironically not from some strange esoteric health publication, but from the Merck Manual. The Merck Manual said that coffee enemas were a therapeutic tool from 1899 to 1977.  Kelley learned about them right in the Merck Manual.  As doctors learned during the 1920s and 1930s, when you take coffee rectally, the caffeine stimulates the liver to release its toxins, it dumps its toxins much like a dump truck.  It's not surprising when you think about it. You take caffeine rectally, you can stimulate the gall bladder and the liver ducts to dump their waste.

This has been documented by very sophisticated radiographic studies--which just about 30 people have read. So coffee enemas seemed like the logical thing to do. And Kelley wasn't too happy about that, being a very neat gentleman. But he figured he didn't have any choice because he wasn't just fooling with some esoteric research project with some student or some study, he dealing with himself, and his life depended on him.  So very reluctantly he went to the store. He got his local Chock-Full of Nuts coffee (he didn't use organic coffee the first time), and he bought an enema bag from the local pharmacy. Then very reluctantly and very gingerly, he made up his coffee and gave himself his first coffee enema.

Again, Kelley was a smart man.  Before he took his first enema, he went on his enzymes four or five days, until he was really feeling sick, had a fever of 103, nausea, vomiting, muscle aches and pains. He really was sick.  He wanted to see if these enemas would work.

He did an enema, and in half an hour his fever went from 104 to 99. His muscle aches and pains were resolved, and he felt almost normal.  It was almost a miraculous occurrence in Kelley's own mind, and from that day on, he did coffee enemas and he's still doing them today. He's been doing them since that first day and hasn't missed a single day.

So that was the third part of the Kelley program: first part diet, second part pancreatic enzymes, third part coffee enemas.  "Crazy" Dr. Kelley.  But he got better.  After about a year and a half, two years, his tumors were gone and he was back at work as an orthodontist.  But when he hung up his shingle again, people didn't come to him for the straightening of their teeth.  Kelley developed quite a reputation as the dentist who had cured himself of cancer through his mothers' nutritional program.  And the first day he re-opened his office, he got calls from people with cancer and asthma, and multiple sclerosis, from the local out-lying towns there in West Texas. All wanting to come by and go on that diet too.

Within a couple of years, Kelley was no longer treating people with crooked teeth. He was basically treating primarily advanced cancer patients with nutritional program.  He developed such an international reputation that the local medical society had him thrown in jail in 1969.  They had copies of his book which he was then publishing, absconded and burned...you don't want to offend the AMA.  There's nothing offends the AMA more than a dentist who cures cancer.  It's not supposed to happen.  It's all right. I understand.  I'm an M.D., and I'm a little offended by the idea too.  I mean, it kind of bothers me that Dr. Kelley did it.

So Kelley had an international reputation, he had this wonderful program: a diet of raw foods, vegetable, nuts, seeds, grains.  He had the wonderful pancreatic enzymes and he added other vitamins and minerals to make the enzymes work better, with coffee enemas, and he was doing pretty well.  But he wasn't doing well enough.  And Kelley always said and I always say, "You don't learn from your successes, your successes make you feel arrogant and wonderful, and they please your mother.  But you learn from your failures."

By about 1969-70, Kelley was probably getting about 50% of his patients well.  The bad news is, he was losing about 50%.   He couldn't figure out why--he was pretty pleased because most of his patients were pretty sick, but he couldn't figure out why he was losing them.  He'd try out everything on a patient who was failing. He'd increase the amount of grains, decrease the amount of grains, give more juices, give less juices, change the relationship of beans to rice. But some patients, no matter what manipulation he did, they'd do badly.  And one of them was the woman who was going to become his second wife.

Now Suzy's a remarkable woman.  Suzy didn't have cancer, she had allergies.  And when I say allergies, I mean the worse case of allergies in the history of medicine.  She was so sensitive to iodine that she could not walk within ten miles of the ocean or she would suffer an anaphylactic reaction.  She had to carry adrenalin with her all the time. Repeatedly, at least twice a week, she'd have anaphylactic reactions.  Some bright allergist had treated her with desensitization shots and used dirty needles and then she had developed hepatitis. So know not only did she have terrible allergies, but she had chronic hepatitis, which in itself is a fatal disease in many cases.  She was 24 years old, and she was dying.

There were about four foods that she could eat. She was getting worse, and she figured by the time she was down to distilled water, it was over.  She knew Kelley was primarily a cancer doctor, but she figured if he was smart enough to kill cancer he could cure her allergies.

She arrived in his office very sick.  Kelley put her on his wonderful diet - the raw fruits, the raw vegetables, the juices, the vitamins, the enzymes, the coffee enemas.  And within three or four months she was doing really well.  By six months, she was doing well enough that she could eat fish--now this is a woman who couldn't walk by the ocean because of her iodine sensitivity.  After nine months she was doing so well, she married Dr. Kelley.  She became his second wife and began to run his office.  And she was extremely healthy.

At about a year, though, things started to change, and Suzy got a little sick.  Tired, fatigue, fevers, chills, that kind of thing, nothing serious. Kelley originally thought that she just had the flu.  He said, "Stay on the program, you'll get over it."  But she got progressively worse.  And what got a little bit frightening for Dr. Kelley and for Suzy was that she started developing allergies, after she'd been free of allergies for about a year.  She began to react to every food she ate, even his wonderful raw foods and raw vegetables.  It didn't make any sense.  Now, he was dealing with his wife, nothing scares a doctor more than being sick himself, that's pretty scary, but when you have a family member who is sick, that's just about as scary.

Kelley did a lot of manipulations.  He increased the food, he increased the vegetables, he increased the raw foods, he changed the proportions of different nutrients and did everything he knew to do to see if that would have any effect on his wife. But she got progressively worse, not better.  After about two months of dietary manipulations, his wife really crashed and ended up semi-comatose in his house. Kelley was faced with a problem. If he didn't do something quick, she might die and he might have to bring her to a hospital, and admit defeat.  The local newspapers would have a field day, "Crazy quack cancer doctor's wife ends up in hospital in a coma."

He thought about this a lot, and he didn't want that to happen. He thought about everything he had done. And he had done everything. He had done everything to manipulation of raw foods, raw vegetables, et cetera.  The only thing he hadn't done, and suddenly it hit him like a light bulb going off, the only thing he hadn't done was give her meat.  Well, he thought about it and he said “No, I'm the raw foods diet. I believe in raw foods, vegetables, meat is toxic, meat kills people, it raises cholesterol levels, it causes cancer.  Human beings do not eat meat, period.  It's awful, it's ugly.”

Two days later, his wife was getting worse and she was going to die. He knew that. He was a dentist, but he knew enough medicine to know his wife was dying.  He said, "the only thing I haven't done is give her meat, and I'm going to give her meat."  Well, he talked it over with her. She was delirious, but she could understand the word meat, and she said, "No, it's not part of the Kelley diet, you're trying to kill me Donald."   He said, "You're going to eat meat whether you want to or not."  And he went to the local store and got the biggest prime beef he could find. He ground it up and he wanted her to eat it raw, of course because if you cook the meat you destroy the enzymes and raw meat has enzymes.  And he coaxed her and coaxed her and he finally told her, "If you don't eat the meat, you're going to the hospital."

Well, she decided to eat the meat, within two hours she was sitting up in bed. Kelley fed her meat throughout the next 24 hours. She got stronger and stronger and within two weeks she was well. Today, Suzy Kelley looks twenty years younger than she is, she eats raw red meat three times a day and is in absolutely perfect physical health.  It was exhilarating but also devastating for Kelley to realize that his own wife was a meat-eater because it was contradictory to everything that he believed in.  It was a two-by-four across his forehead.

Kelley always said that "when God wants to teach me a lesson He doesn't hit me with a twig, He hits me with a two-by-four.   Because I'm too dumb, I never see the message otherwise."  Well, almost losing his wife was a big two-by-four right across the forehead. Kelley said, "I can't believe, humble dentist from Texas that I am, that I'm the first person in the history of the world who realized that there's a sub-category of human beings that not only needs meat but thrives on it, I simply don't get it".  Well, he again went to his local library and he looked and he looked and he looked and he learned about a wonderful anthropologist named Stefansson.

By now, Dr. Kelley was doing pretty well.  Had his diet down, he had his enzymes down, he understood raw foods, he understood pancreatic enzymes, and he was doing well.  He was nine months into his therapy, the tumor was regressing, he was working nine hours a day seeing patients.  Everything was going well.

And then he started to get sick.  He woke up one day feeling tired, he canceled his patients and stayed in bed.  The next day he felt worse - tired, fatigue and he thought he was getting the flu.  He asked his mother. His mother said, "Just stay on the diet, stay on the enzymes." His mother was a pretty tough character. She said, "You just keep doing the program."  The third day he was sicker.  The fourth day he started vomiting.  This was a bit scary, because he would take one of his doses of fifty capsules of enzymes and would throw them up immediately.

Kelley was a tough character.  He'd take the fifty pills again and he'd throw them up again. He had this big battle with his stomach, and by the end of the day, he gave up.  He said, "I just have intestinal flu, I'll stay off the pills."  So he stayed off the pills two or three days and he started to feel better.  He said, "Okay, I can go back on my pills."  And yet he was scared. He knew if he stayed off those enzymes, those tumors were going to grow.  So after three or four days he felt fine, then suddenly he started getting sick again.  He felt tired, then fatigued and lethargic, with fevers, chills sweats.  And the fourth day on these enzymes, he started throwing up his guts.

This was kind of scary, again, because those pancreatic enzymes were his life-line and without them he was going to die.  He had four young kids and if he died, they were going back to the orphanage, they had no other options.  Kelley stayed off the enzymes a couple of days and felt better.  But as he stayed off the pills--and remember, Kelley was lucky in a very unlucky way because he had his own tumor marker sticking out of his belly--if he stayed off the enzymes those tumors started to grow.  He didn't like that too much.

On the enzymes, they'd start to shrink ,but he'd get sick. When off the enzymes, the tumors would grow, but he'd feel better.  When on the enzymes, the tumors would shrink, but he'd feel sick.  "This doesn't make sense," he said.  "On the enzymes, the tumors are going away, I should feel better.  When off the enzymes, the tumors grow, and I should feel worse.  On the enzymes, when the tumors break down, I feel sicker."

He kept thinking about this, Kelley being a scientist, stayed up day after day after day.  Kelley was a wonderful man.  When he had a problem--I lived in his house for a year and a half and there were a lot of unsolved problems--and I can remember days when he wouldn't let me sleep because some problem had to be thought about.  I need about six or seven hours a night.  He got about thirty minutes, so it was a pretty difficult thing to be around him physiologically.  Also, psychologically and spiritually.

Kelley was trying to figure out this problem of why he felt worse when the tumors broke down. One night, in the middle of the nigh at 3 o'clock in the morning, he finally figured it out.  He said, "I know what's happening!  Tumor wastes are making me sick.  Tumor wastes are poisonous!  That's what it is!"  And a light went off.  He said, "A lot of the symptoms that people are getting on chemo" --now back in 1964 we didn't have a lot of the chemotherapy agents but we certainly had chemo and people certainly got sick on it--Kelley said, "It's the darned tumor breaking down. I bet that's why people get sick from the treatment for cancer, as the tumor breaks down they get poisoned by tumor waste."

Kelley said nothing, absolutely nothing on earth is more toxic to the cancer patient than dead tumor waste.  That was his statement.  And it seemed to be true.  When he was off the enzymes, when the tumor would be growing, he'd feel better.  When on the enzymes, he'd feel sick.  He had a lot of symptoms.  Fevers to 103, chills, sweats, almost like a very severe anaphylactic sickness like response, muscle aches and pains. He said, "It was the tumor waste!"

Now, that led to another investigation.  Kelley was looking for some way to help the body get rid of tumor waste.  And he went through the medical literature. He had to find some way, because he had to increase the efficiency of the program. He had to find a way for the patient, in this case himself, to stay on those enzymes because those pills were the life-line. Well, he went through a number of medical journals and a number of medical text books and the thing that kept coming back to him was the thing that raises the eyebrows of the orthodox colleagues more than anything. And you will probably laugh when I mention it, and that's the coffee enemas.

Nothing in the history of the world has generated more controversy than coffee enemas. Kelley learned about coffee enemas ironically not from some strange esoteric health publication, but from the Merck Manual. The Merck Manual said that coffee enemas were a therapeutic tool from 1899 to 1977.  Kelley learned about them right in the Merck Manual.  As doctors learned during the 1920s and 1930s, when you take coffee rectally, the caffeine stimulates the liver to release its toxins, it dumps its toxins much like a dump truck.  It's not surprising when you think about it. You take caffeine rectally, you can stimulate the gall bladder and the liver ducts to dump their waste.

This has been documented by very sophisticated radiographic studies--which just about 30 people have read. So coffee enemas seemed like the logical thing to do. And Kelley wasn't too happy about that, being a very neat gentleman. But he figured he didn't have any choice because he wasn't just fooling with some esoteric research project with some student or some study, he dealing with himself, and his life depended on him.  So very reluctantly he went to the store. He got his local Chock-Full of Nuts coffee (he didn't use organic coffee the first time), and he bought an enema bag from the local pharmacy. Then very reluctantly and very gingerly, he made up his coffee and gave himself his first coffee enema.

Again, Kelley was a smart man.  Before he took his first enema, he went on his enzymes four or five days, until he was really feeling sick, had a fever of 103, nausea, vomiting, muscle aches and pains. He really was sick.  He wanted to see if these enemas would work.

He did an enema, and in half an hour his fever went from 104 to 99. His muscle aches and pains were resolved, and he felt almost normal.  It was almost a miraculous occurrence in Kelley's own mind, and from that day on, he did coffee enemas and he's still doing them today. He's been doing them since that first day and hasn't missed a single day.

So that was the third part of the Kelley program: first part diet, second part pancreatic enzymes, third part coffee enemas.  "Crazy" Dr. Kelley.  But he got better.  After about a year and a half, two years, his tumors were gone and he was back at work as an orthodontist.  But when he hung up his shingle again, people didn't come to him for the straightening of their teeth.  Kelley developed quite a reputation as the dentist who had cured himself of cancer through his mothers' nutritional program.  And the first day he re-opened his office, he got calls from people with cancer and asthma, and multiple sclerosis, from the local out-lying towns there in West Texas. All wanting to come by and go on that diet too.

Within a couple of years, Kelley was no longer treating people with crooked teeth. He was basically treating primarily advanced cancer patients with nutritional program.  He developed such an international reputation that the local medical society had him thrown in jail in 1969.  They had copies of his book which he was then publishing, absconded and burned...you don't want to offend the AMA.  There's nothing offends the AMA more than a dentist who cures cancer.  It's not supposed to happen.  It's all right. I understand.  I'm an M.D., and I'm a little offended by the idea too.  I mean, it kind of bothers me that Dr. Kelley did it.

So Kelley had an international reputation, he had this wonderful program: a diet of raw foods, vegetable, nuts, seeds, grains.  He had the wonderful pancreatic enzymes and he added other vitamins and minerals to make the enzymes work better, with coffee enemas, and he was doing pretty well.  But he wasn't doing well enough.  And Kelley always said and I always say, "You don't learn from your successes, your successes make you feel arrogant and wonderful, and they please your mother.  But you learn from your failures."

By about 1969-70, Kelley was probably getting about 50% of his patients well.  The bad news is, he was losing about 50%.   He couldn't figure out why--he was pretty pleased because most of his patients were pretty sick, but he couldn't figure out why he was losing them.  He'd try out everything on a patient who was failing. He'd increase the amount of grains, decrease the amount of grains, give more juices, give less juices, change the relationship of beans to rice. But some patients, no matter what manipulation he did, they'd do badly.  And one of them was the woman who was going to become his second wife.

Now Suzy's a remarkable woman.  Suzy didn't have cancer, she had allergies.  And when I say allergies, I mean the worse case of allergies in the history of medicine.  She was so sensitive to iodine that she could not walk within ten miles of the ocean or she would suffer an anaphylactic reaction.  She had to carry adrenalin with her all the time. Repeatedly, at least twice a week, she'd have anaphylactic reactions.  Some bright allergist had treated her with desensitization shots and used dirty needles and then she had developed hepatitis. So know not only did she have terrible allergies, but she had chronic hepatitis, which in itself is a fatal disease in many cases.  She was 24 years old, and she was dying.

There were about four foods that she could eat. She was getting worse, and she figured by the time she was down to distilled water, it was over.  She knew Kelley was primarily a cancer doctor, but she figured if he was smart enough to kill cancer he could cure her allergies.

She arrived in his office very sick.  Kelley put her on his wonderful diet - the raw fruits, the raw vegetables, the juices, the vitamins, the enzymes, the coffee enemas.  And within three or four months she was doing really well.  By six months, she was doing well enough that she could eat fish--now this is a woman who couldn't walk by the ocean because of her iodine sensitivity.  After nine months she was doing so well, she married Dr. Kelley.  She became his second wife and began to run his office.  And she was extremely healthy.

At about a year, though, things started to change, and Suzy got a little sick.  Tired, fatigue, fevers, chills, that kind of thing, nothing serious. Kelley originally thought that she just had the flu.  He said, "Stay on the program, you'll get over it."  But she got progressively worse.  And what got a little bit frightening for Dr. Kelley and for Suzy was that she started developing allergies, after she'd been free of allergies for about a year.  She began to react to every food she ate, even his wonderful raw foods and raw vegetables.  It didn't make any sense.  Now, he was dealing with his wife, nothing scares a doctor more than being sick himself, that's pretty scary, but when you have a family member who is sick, that's just about as scary.

Kelley did a lot of manipulations.  He increased the food, he increased the vegetables, he increased the raw foods, he changed the proportions of different nutrients and did everything he knew to do to see if that would have any effect on his wife. But she got progressively worse, not better.  After about two months of dietary manipulations, his wife really crashed and ended up semi-comatose in his house. Kelley was faced with a problem. If he didn't do something quick, she might die and he might have to bring her to a hospital, and admit defeat.  The local newspapers would have a field day, "Crazy quack cancer doctor's wife ends up in hospital in a coma."

He thought about this a lot, and he didn't want that to happen. He thought about everything he had done. And he had done everything. He had done everything to manipulation of raw foods, raw vegetables, et cetera.  The only thing he hadn't done, and suddenly it hit him like a light bulb going off, the only thing he hadn't done was give her meat.  Well, he thought about it and he said “No, I'm the raw foods diet. I believe in raw foods, vegetables, meat is toxic, meat kills people, it raises cholesterol levels, it causes cancer.  Human beings do not eat meat, period.  It's awful, it's ugly.”

Two days later, his wife was getting worse and she was going to die. He knew that. He was a dentist, but he knew enough medicine to know his wife was dying.  He said, "the only thing I haven't done is give her meat, and I'm going to give her meat."  Well, he talked it over with her. She was delirious, but she could understand the word meat, and she said, "No, it's not part of the Kelley diet, you're trying to kill me Donald."   He said, "You're going to eat meat whether you want to or not."  And he went to the local store and got the biggest prime beef he could find. He ground it up and he wanted her to eat it raw, of course because if you cook the meat you destroy the enzymes and raw meat has enzymes.  And he coaxed her and coaxed her and he finally told her, "If you don't eat the meat, you're going to the hospital."

Well, she decided to eat the meat, within two hours she was sitting up in bed. Kelley fed her meat throughout the next 24 hours. She got stronger and stronger and within two weeks she was well. Today, Suzy Kelley looks twenty years younger than she is, she eats raw red meat three times a day and is in absolutely perfect physical health.  It was exhilarating but also devastating for Kelley to realize that his own wife was a meat-eater because it was contradictory to everything that he believed in.  It was a two-by-four across his forehead.

Kelley always said that "when God wants to teach me a lesson He doesn't hit me with a twig, He hits me with a two-by-four.   Because I'm too dumb, I never see the message otherwise."  Well, almost losing his wife was a big two-by-four right across the forehead. Kelley said, "I can't believe, humble dentist from Texas that I am, that I'm the first person in the history of the world who realized that there's a sub-category of human beings that not only needs meat but thrives on it, I simply don't get it".  Well, he again went to his local library and he looked and he looked and he looked and he learned about a wonderful anthropologist named Stefansson.

Vilhjalmur Stefansson was one man I wish I could have met, but he's been dead for a while. Stefansson was an American who was trained at Harvard in anthropology. He got tired of hanging around Cambridge trying to decide what to do with his life and one day packed up and went up to the most remote regions of the Arctic Circle to study Eskimos.  Up to that point, no white man had ever lived with the Eskimos.  Now Stefansson did not believe in armchair anthropology.  He lived with the Eskimos, he took an Eskimo wife, he studied their culture, their life-style, their hunting techniques, and he studied particularly their diet.   Now the Eskimo diet stunned Stefansson.  It shouldn't have when you think about it, when you think about what the Arctic Circle is really like, because the Eskimo diet is nothing except a meat diet.  It's a two month summer which is not much of a summer. There are no fruits, no vegetables. There is no soil, just tundra. No vegetarian foods at all. All there are are lichens, and humans can't digest lichens.  All there is is fatty red meat - caribou, seal, polar bear, whale, fish, salmon. There's nothing else.  If humans were going to live up in the Arctic Circle, prior to all the junk food shipped in, all that was available was meat.  All the Eskimos could eat was meat.  Stefansson thought about this, because he knew enough biology to know at that time, it was believed that humans could not live on meat and even then believed that meat was one of the three great evils of humankind.  So he looked at this very carefully, and he said, "Here is this whole group of people who are not only eating meat, but are thriving on it."  And they were among the healthiest people that Stephenson had ever observed.  They had no cancer, no heart disease, no diabetes, no obesity, they didn't even had a word for depression in their vocabulary because they didn't know what it was. They seemed to be universally happy people.

Stefansson discussed this diet with his biochemist friends at Harvard. It was determined that the all meat diet that the Eskimos were following was 80% saturated fat.  Now there are Executives at the American Heart Society who would drop dead of a heart attack if you suggested a diet of 80% saturated fat.  The normal American diet is about 30% - 40% and the American Heart Association recommends 20 - 30%.  Here was a whole group of people thriving on a diet that's 80% saturated fat!

Stefansson spent ten years there, and when he came back to the U.S., he lived in New York. He wrote a series of ten books documenting his experiences.  Several of those books specifically dealt with the Eskimo diet.  When those particular books were published, dealing with the diet, a controversy erupted.  It was deemed absolutely impossible that human beings could live on meat.  Meat was ugly, unhealthy, caused heart disease, caused all kinds of toxic reactions.  Stefansson was called a fraud.  You know, logically, you think, what the heck were they going to live on?  There is nothing else up in the Arctic Circle but meat anyway. But people didn't put two and two together. I guess they figured they had some magical source of vegetables and fruit but all they lived on were meats.  This controversy raged for five years. There were front page articles in the New York Times.  Because Stephenson was a very well known figure at that time. He was this wonderful romantic anthropologist who'd disappeared in the Arctic Circle for ten years and married an Eskimo, and the newspapers carried front page articles for years on this controversy about meat.

Finally Stefansson dared the New York City Medical Society.  He said, "I'll go into a locked ward at Bellevue Hospital for a year and you feed me nothing but red meat.  80% saturated fat, I'll guarantee I'll come out healthier than I went in."  The eminent Professor Tolstoy at my alma mater, Cornell University Medical College, said "Let's do it."  So for a year, Stefansson lived in a locked room at Bellevue Hospital with one of his explorer colleagues, and the two of them lived on nothing but raw meat, 80% saturated fat. At the end of that experiment Stefansson's cholesterol levels had dropped several points. He was in excellent health, his weight had dropped, his triglycerides were virtually non-existent, and nobody could figure out what had happened.  There were a series of about 15 articles in the medical journals discussing this experiment. About thirty people read those.

Even in those days, it didn't agree with what people wanted to believe.  When Kelley read Stefansson's work, he said, “My wife isn't an Eskimo, why should she need to be on red meat?" He said, "I can understand an isolated group of people who need to be on red meat, living up in the Arctic Circle, but Suzy's not an Eskimo.”  And then he thought and he thought and he thought, and he went back to the library. Being a genius is hard work, you have to keep going back to the library.

So he went back to library, and he realized that about 20,000 years ago there was an ice age.  It came down to about to the level of New York City. Long Island is the terminal murrain for the last ice age, that's a pretty low latitude to come down.  There are lots of people who are Europeans who essentially were living in Arctic-Circle -like conditions 20,000 years ago. If you're from Northern Europe, your ancestors had nothing to eat but large fatty animals, because the Arctic Circle was moved down several thousand miles, and the off-spring, many of us from European areas, are people who survived because they could utilize meats very efficiently.

His wife Suzy was of Northern European descent. Her ancestors, some 15,000 years ago, survived because, like the Eskimos, they could live on 80% saturated fat.  And that's the diet Suzy thrives on today, even though she's not an Eskimo.  So we have to think about geologic history when you make determinations about dietary selection.

Now Kelley had his two diets - his vegetarian diet and his meat diet. And very quickly he realized that there was a third category. Eventually he had ten subcategories, 90 variations of the sub-types, so it got very complicated.  But he realized very quickly that there were three general categories of people.  Vegetarian types - people who do very well with fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, grains, and do terribly with animal proteins.  Carnivore types - people who do extremely well with meat, particularly fatty meat, red meat, beef, lamb, pork, some poultry, some fatty fish like swordfish, they always need fat, the carnivores do extremely well on fat.  They enjoy other foods like root vegetables, and other certain vegetable products. But they do absolutely terrible if they eat salads.  If you see somebody at a dinner table who you serve them a green salad and they gag, you can presume that genetically they're a carnivore, because their body is telling them that's not the right food for them.  Diets for balanced people are somewhere in between.  There again, three basic types. Kelley was a very observant man--now this was a very big observation, to realize that there are three types of people, general basic types, I mean three types of diet. Then he realized that each one of those types were susceptible to a particular type of cancer.

Kelley had a wonderful laboratory - it was his office, he was seeing thousands of patients with all types of cancer, so he had a wide patient base on which to base his observations.  He noticed that the vegetarian types, the people who did well with the fruit, vegetable green diet, tended to get the hard tumors.  These are the very traditional tumors of the lung, liver, the pancreas, the colon and the breast and the brain.  Hard tumors.  The carnivore types tended to get the blood tumors: the lymphomas, the leukemias, the melanoma.  Melanoma, though its not a blood tumor, almost invariably occurred, in Kelley's observations, among people who did well on the meat diet.  Balanced people were somewhere in between, somewhat susceptible to either the hard tumors or soft tumors. 

Now Kelley thought and he thought and he thought, he said, "This is a particularly important observation, that certain types of people who do well on certain types of diets develop certain types of cancer and don't develop other types."  And he wondered if there was anything physiological that might explain this, he said, "If I can figure out what it was, I might learn something fundamental about cancer."  And he thought and he thought and he thought, and he observed and went through the records of all his thousands of patients, and he wondered if there were certain tendencies.

He noticed that there were certain vegetarian patients, there were certain qualities that seemed to be almost universally distinctive.  These patients tended to have a fast pulse.  They tended to need only a little bit of sleep, only four or five hours of sleep.  They tended to be very irritable emotionally.  They tended to do very well in the mornings, less well at night, they tended to have a very strong endocrine system.

The carnivores were the opposite.  They tended to be a little more lethargic and laconic, and seemed to need about eight to ten hours of sleep.  They did terribly in the morning because they didn't start waking up until about one or two in the afternoon.  They tended to have a slow pulse, they tended to have very good digestion.

Balanced people were somewhere in between.  Normal pulse, six to eight hours of sleep, did well at any time of day.  He noticed that there were different psychological and physical and physiological correlates with each type, and he kept thinking and thinking and thinking about the possibility that if something biological could explain this, he might understand cancer a little bit better.

So he did what he always did, he went back to the library, and he learned about the work of Melvin Page.  Now Dr. Melvin Page was an eccentric dentist who worked out of St. Petersburg Florida.  Page, during the forties and fifties, like Kelley, had determined that different types of people need different diets.  And his explanation was in autonomic physiology.

Now I'm not going to get technical, but the nervous system can be divided into two basic--we need to have a little background right here. The easiest way to divide it is into the conscious nervous system and the unconscious nervous system.  Now the conscious nervous system is the nervous system you use when you to drive a car, do your crossword puzzle or a math problem.  The unconscious nervous system is the nervous system that controls physiological processes about which we don't have to think: heart rate, secretion of enzymes, secretion of hormones, digestion processes. We don't have to think about digestion, we don't have to think when we digest food, it just happens, it is automatic.  Traditionally, scientists thought that the unconscious processes-- the physiological processes of secretion, digestion and heart rate--were beyond conscious control.  Of course, we know now through biofeedback experiences that this is not true, but in general it's a good useful dichotomy.

The unconscious nervous system in physiology is known as the autonomic nervous system.  It in itself can be divided into two parts, the sympathetic and the parasympathetic. Again, I'm not going to get too technical but we have to know these terms.  The sympathetic and the parasympathetic nervous system tend to work in opposition.  The sympathetic nervous system, for example, tends to speed up heart rate, the parasympathetic tends to turn it down.  The sympathetic system tends to block secretion, pancreatic enzymes, the parasympathetic system tends to decrease them.  The sympathetic system blocks parastalysis in the intestinal tract, the parasympathetic tends to decrease them.  The sympathetic system tends to activate the endocrine system, the parasympathetic tends to turn it down.  These two systems work in opposition, and every second of our lives to keep our physiology exactly where it should be, and to do the process that's necessary for that moment.  Now Melvin Page suggested that there were certain people whose sympathetic nervous system was overly developed and overreactive.  And in those people the parasympathetic nervous system was correspondingly weak.  In other people, the parasympathetic system was strong, but the sympathetic system was weak.  In the third group, the two systems were equally balanced.  Kelley immediately recognized that these were his vegetarians, carnivores, and balanced people.

Vegetarians tend to have a very strong sympathetic nervous system and a very weak parasympathetic nervous system.  Carnivores, the meat eaters, have a very strong parasympathetic system, but a very weak sympathetic system, and  balanced people are somewhere in between.

So you may say, so what, it all sounds very fancy, it sounds like a science lecture.  But, it really is important to understand this and how it relates to three important minerals.  Calcium, magnesium and potassium.

In the vegetarian diets that a sympathetic system patients were loaded with potassium magnesium, these are very alkalinizing nutrients and we now know, through orthodox neurophysiology that potassium tends to stimulate the parasympathetic nerves and magnesium tends to block sympathetic function.  So if you're dealing with a vegetarian who has a very strong sympathetic system and a weak parasympathetic system, a vegetarian diet would tend to tone down the strong system and build up the weak system and bring them into balance.

Meat is very acid forming.  We'll talk about carnivores for a second.   Meat tends to produce acids in the body, meat is loaded with sulfates and phosphates.  In the body, as any second year medical student knows, sulphates and phosphates turn into sulphuric acid and phosphoric acid.  There's an enormous load of free acid in a meat meal. Now this had been measured, and it's an extreme load on the body.  The quickest way to acidify the bloodstream is to eat red meat.  Red meat is very acidifying.

Kelley said, “what does that have to do with autonomic physiology?” We now know from studies in emergency rooms that sympathetic and parasympathetic function is very cued to the Ph balance.  We know this from experiences with medical residents. I think of some experiences when I was a resident, the traditional therapy for a patient who walks in with a heart attack is to fill him up with calcium and fill them up with bi-carbon, you load him with bi-carbon, heart attack patients go into acidosis, acidosis does awful things, we thought, you've got block the acidosis and fill them up with bicarbonate.  The only problem is, a lot of patients were dying from heart attacks. I can remember some from my own internship, patients were dying because we used too much bicarbonate.  When you use too much bicarbonate, you turn off the sympathetic nervous system.  This is the stress nervous system, the one system you want functioning in a period of stress like a heart attack, is the sympathetic nervous system.  When you block its function, patients can go into fatal arrhythmias, fibrillation and can die within seconds.  And it took thousands of patients to die from overzealous interns pushing bicarbonate before we realized that this was not an ideal therapy.  You want the Ph slightly acid because if you get it too alkaline and the sympathetic turns off, and you can lose your patient.

This has been documented in the literature, and Kelley, even back in the sixties and seventies when he was doing his research, realized that rudimentary physiology was dependent on Ph.  In an acid environment ,the sympathetic nervous system is turned on.  Parasympathetic system turns off.  Carnivores, remember, and I know it gets a little confusing sometimes, had a strong parasympathetic system and a weak sympathetic system.  If you eat red meat, you stimulate the body acids, you stimulate the sympathetic system and turn down the parasympathetic system and you restore balance.

Kelley began to realize as he studied thousands of his patients that when he brought the autonomic nervous system into balance, which is what he was doing with his diet, the tumors would go away.  It was that simple.  When he tuned down the sympathetic system and brought up the parasympathetic system in a hard tumor patient, the tumor sometimes would go away in days. Similarly, if you have a patient with leukemia or lymphoma and you put them on a red meat diet, you acidify the blood stream and you're speeding up the sympathetic system and tuning down the parasympathetic system, and the tumors would go away.  He saw this in his own practice.  And then often he'd treat a patient for months and months and months and get no progress at all, and then one day the tumor starts shrinking as if it were melting away like an ice cube on a hot day.  And he said, it's always autonomic physiology.

Calcium is the key element in all this. Calcium has live applications for anybody practicing any kind of oncology.  Although my protocol is nutritional and the Kelley Program is nutritional, it applies to chemotherapy or immunotherapy or any of the therapies.

Think about calcium.  It has a lot of functions.  We know it is the main cement for the bones, but it also is a very metabolically active.  It almost acts like a hormone in the body.  It's what's called a second messenger in cells. It is one way the neurotransmitters transmit the information into the nucleus.  Calcium functions as a carrier of information, and as a stimulator of information systems in the cell.  Calcium is also primarily and fundamentally the main cement of cellular membranes, and this has often been overlooked because we tend to think about protein and fats in cell membranes and not think too much about calcium.  But calcium really holds the cell membranes together, and this has been well documented.

Now, when the sympathetic nervous system is very strong and active in producing lots of adrenaline, which is one of its main hormones, some membranes seem to get very tight. If you inject adrenaline into somebody, the muscles tend to get tense with a twitching in the mouth, and in their jaws, the jaws will tense up.  Cell membranes tighten virtually every tissue in the body.  What happens is with sympathetic discharge, calcium goes into the cell membranes and tightens up the membranes.

In an alkaline environment, when the sympathetic nervous system is turned off, membranes get very weak and the calcium leaches out and membranes leak all kinds of junk. Kelley tried to relate this to cancer. He began to realize that with hard tumor patients, the main problem is the sympathetic system was too strong and the membranes were too tight. And when the membranes of the tumors were too tight, his patients own immune system and the patients own pancreatic enzymes couldn't get at that tumor.  On his raw foods diet with all his juices and extra pancreatic enzymes, nutrition would turn a little more alkaline and the sympathetic nervous system would weaken. Calcium would leach out of the membranes and the membranes would get leaky, and WHAMMO! The enzymes could get to that tumor very easily. The patients own immune system could get at that tumor very easily. Chemotherapy could get at that tumor very easily.  Chemotherapeutic drugs could get at that tumor very easily.  One of the most interesting things you can find in oncology is that you can have two patients with tumors in the same place, colon tumor metastatic to the liver, and one will respond beautifully with total resolution of the tumor, and the other won't respond at all.  It's pH autonomic balance, if you believe Kelley's hypothesis.  And I have come to believe it.

One patient may have a very strong sympathetic system and you give them chemotherapeutic agents and those cell membranes are so tight nothing is going to get in.  Enzymes won't get into the tumors, chemo won't get into the tumors, immune system products won't get into the tumors, and those patients die and the tumors grow.  If you alkalinize the body, if you loosen those cell membranes, chemotherapeutic agents, immune system products, pancreatic enzymes can attack those tumors and dissolve them very, very quickly.

With parasympathetic tumors - the tumors of the blood, leukemia, lymphoma, myeloma and melanoma - you're dealing with the opposite situation.  What I have found in my own research, is these patients tend to be too alkaline and their cell membranes tend to be too leaky.  Now when cell membranes are too leaky and too alkaline, this tends to stimulate cellular reproduction.  This is one of the observations that I am still trying to figure out through genetic evaluations.  But when they're too alkaline, the parasympathetic system is too strong, the cell membranes are too leaky, things happen very quickly.  Cells in every tissue in the body tend to reproduce very, very quickly.  And the problem with these tumors is they reproduce so quickly that whatever therapeutic agent you use, you're running a race as to whether you can break them down faster than they are reproducing.

Now, when you use a red meat diet, for example, and the other nutrients which stimulate sympathetic function and tone down parasympathetic function, you get the patients more acid and the sympathetic system turns on and the cell membranes get a little tighter.  Cell reproduction slows, reproduction in the tumors tends to slow down.  That allows for and gives you time, that gives some you leeway.  Interestingly enough, acute lymphocytic leukemia where the tumors that tend to occur in parasympathetic dominance, in the meat eaters, these are alkaline people. They tend to be very aggressive tumors.

I've seen in my own training people whose white blood count will go from 2000 to a million in a period of weeks. I've seen patients diagnosed with acute lymphocytic die within two weeks of their diagnosis.  These are very aggressive tumors, they grow very, very fast.  And the reason is leaky cell membranes, alkaline environment, parasympathetic dominance.  A too weak sympathetic system.  Stimulates cellular growth.  You push those people acid, you slow down growth, you give them a therapeutic agent--whether chemotherapy, immunotherapy or my enzyme therapy, time to work.  So when you're treating a cancer patient, you have to think about autonomic physiology, whether you're using nutrition or chemotherapy.

Now it's very interesting to treat patients with diet and see the mistakes you make.  I'm going to talk about one or two of my mistakes, because you learn from your mistakes, you don't learn from your failures. I'd like to get up here and tell you I don't have any mistakes, but boy, do I have some mistakes.

I have a patient, referred from Pat McGrady, my wonderful friend who is out in the audience.  He referred a patient with lung cancer, a psychology professor from the Midwest.  I said, "Lung cancer.  I love lung cancer. It's a challenge. I like a challenge, I like to get people well so I can laugh at the orthodox people. So I put this patient on a vegetarian diet. She had a hard tumor. I put her on the supplements, large dose of pancreatic enzymes, the coffee enemas, and initially there was no response.  The tumor didn't grow, but it didn't shrink.

Well, I'm a little smart. I had studied Kelley's stuff for ten years, so I knew what the problem was, she wasn't alkaline enough.  The sympathetic system was too strong, calcium was staying in the cell membranes, the membranes were too tight, those enzymes that I was feeding her by the pound were not getting to that tumor, the membranes were too tight.  So I increased magnesium and potassium.  Magnesium and potassium are the ultimate alkalinizes of the body, they depress sympathetic flow, increase parasympathetic flow, and it worked wonderfully, the tumor started to dissolve, the tumor markers were going down. I was real proud of myself, until one day, a Saturday morning, this patient called me hysterical.   She'd developed terrible fluid effusions, she had edema in her leg, her belly had bloated up, and it sounded like she was about to die. I was pretty upset. I was upset with myself. I couldn't believe this was happening.  And I thought and I thought and I thought and I thought, for three days, and I didn't sleep much, and I realized what I'd done.

I'd pushed her alkaline. I'd turned off the sympathetic system and turned on the parasympathetic system. Calcium was leaking out of the membranes, I'd pushed her so alkaline that her tumors were exploding and every cell in her body was leaking fluid because the membranes were so leaky.  When I realized what I'd done, I called her up and put her on large doses of calcium and gave her certain supplements that are used to acidify the body. Within three days, the membranes were tighter than they were, the tumors stopped growing and all the fluids started to absorb.  I have that patient now exactly where I want her: slightly alkaline, slightly leaky, the membranes are slightly leaky, but not too much so.

When you realize how important or how easy it is to manipulate the body using Kelley's theory, you begin to appreciate the importance of nutrition.  As I said earlier, it doesn't matter which therapy you use, whether you use chemotherapy or immunotherapy or my enzyme therapy, if you know how to manipulate the body with dietary products you can get your patient exactly where you want to get them. Exactly where you want to get them, and you can get the therapeutic outcome you're looking for.  Now all this theory is wonderful, but people always ask me, “What's your success rate, how great is it?”

I spent five years going through 10,000 of Kelley's records.  I put it all together in a five hundred page manuscript (One Man Alone) that I couldn't get published at the time.  People told me that there are two reasons why I couldn't get published.  One reason is the results are too good, the other reason is the results are too bad.  So I don't know, I suppose the truth is somewhere in between.  One doctor told me there is no way these results could be so good. After going through 10,000 of Dr. Kelley's records, I found that patients who were complying on the program and doing the program properly, which of course they have to do, about 70% of them get well. It doesn't matter what kind of cancer or how advanced it was.  Of course, this was a retrospective study and evaluations of Kelley's patients treated in the past under noncontrolled circumstances, so it doesn't prove anything by the orthodox standards of proving things.  I don't know whether the orthodox standards of proving things are valid or not, but it certainly doesn't meet that criterion and I'm the first one to admit it.

But in one particular study, and I’m going to mention it here because I always mention it in my lectures, is Kelley's study of pancreatic cases, because it's pretty impressive.   Dr. Robert Good, the man I was working under, one of the eminent immunologists of our time and under whom I did my immunology fellowship, suggested that we needed a numerator/ denominator study to make sense out of Kelley's success rate.

Now what did he mean by that?  I mean, it's okay to find occasional patients who get well, but how many get well?  And to do that you have to track down all the patients treated with the therapy and find out what their outcome was. We decided to concentrate on one kind of cancer.  Pancreatic cancer. Why pancreatic cancer?  Because pancreatic cancer is the worst cancer known to man.  It has a mean survival of about four to six months, no one has cured this disease in orthodox medicine. We chose pancreatic cancer because if any patients were alive five or ten years later, no one could argue that this was the normal history the disease. It couldn't be the normal, natural history of the disease, because nobody with pancreatic cancer (except rarely, those few patients who are treated early with surgery) get cured, virtually...I think the two year survival rate is about 5%,  five year survival is less than 1%.

So I knew if I could find a bunch of pancreatic cancer patients, properly diagnosed, treated by Kelley nutritionally, alive five to ten years later, this would be a significant finding.  Well arbitrarily, I decided to track down every patient treated by Kelley between the years of 1974 and 1982.  I found 23. These are patients who may or may not have gone into therapy, who may or may not have taken a single pill.

I found, and I did extensive interviews with family members and doctors who made the diagnosis, that a first group of ten of these patients turned to Kelley once, decided he was a quack, never did the program, and the median survival rate was six days after seeing Kelley, which is pretty standard for pancreatic cancer, two months, the mean survival was about two months.

There was a second group of about seven patients who went on the program partially and eventually gave up, largely because of physician pressure that Kelley was a quack, and even those patients who did the program partially had a higher mean of survival, about 300 days, which is significant and significantly higher than the usual median for pancreatic cancer.

The third group of six patients did the program completely and totally, the mean of survival was eight and one-half years, most of those patients are still alive, though one died of Alzheimers. And as I always say at every lecture, if you have your pancreatic cancer patients dying of old age and Alzheimers, you have succeeded as a physician.  So, mean survival eight and a half years and growing.  Well, that's wonderful, that's Kelley's success rate, in that particular series of patients, every patient who followed the program did well. Yes, it's a small group, it's only six, but science always begin with observations, anecdotal observations, and small groups of patients. They don't begin with double blind clinical trials. They begin with simple observations.  It was a simple observation, maybe it did not prove Kelley was a genius, but his program worked.  Sometimes if you have enough scar tissue from previous operations, you can't get the therapeutic agents to the site of the tumors, and the tumors will grow.  I've had that happen in patients who have had three or four operations.

The third reason why Dr. Kelley said people don't get well, and this one is hard for me to accept because I was trained as an orthodox immunologist and I believed that everything will reduce to science. But Kelley always said that the main reason patients don't get well is a lack of faith. Now, I'm not going to go into a big thing on that, but patients who really don't believe what they're doing, whatever the therapy is, they're not going to get well. We'll let Bernie Siegel and Norman Cousins talk about that.  What Kelley did, and what we tried to do, was figure out what the physiological correlation to faith means.

Believe me, I've seen patients in my office who had no faith in what I do.  Most of the patients who come to me figure that if I was any good, I'd be the head of Sloan Kettering. If I was any good, I wouldn't be doing this crazy nutrition. Believe me, most patients who come into my office are not happy about coffee enemas or carrot juice or vegetarian diets or even eating meat.  They think the whole thing is crazy. They come because they're scared. Because everything else has failed, and because I’m their last hope.  They're not there because they want to be there.

A lot of patients come in without faith.  Some of them get it as they do better, some of them never get it and even if they do the program perfectly, if they have no faith in what they do, they die.  I've never seen a patient who has absolutely no faith in the program--even if they do it completely--who lives.

An interesting problem, now why should that be?  Well, if you don't have faith, it creates anxiety.  Lack of faith equals anxiety.  When you have anxiety, what happens?  When you have anxiety, you turn on the sympathetic nervous system.  When you have no faith that things are going to go well, you have to live in a state of vigilance.  When we live in a state of vigilance, the sympathetic nervous system fires constantly. When the sympathetic nervous system fires constantly, you get way too acid, cell membranes get way too tight, nutrients and enzymes can't get to the site of the tumor, and the lack of faith in physiological channels leads to death, period.  It happens all the time. Now interestingly enough, with the soft tumor patients, the patients who have the leukemia, lymphomas, myelomas and melanomas, sometimes lack of faith is a good thing, and I'll tell you what I mean by that.

In 1982 Kelley was working on a leukemia patient and I happened to be in his office. A six year old girl, treated at Stanford University, had acute lymphocytic leukemia, failed chemotherapy. Now acute lymphocytic leukemia is the pride and joy of orthodox oncology because it’s one of the very few cancers that can be treated successfully with chemotherapy.  This young lady, age six, was not doing well at all.  And she and her mother decided to come see this quack dentist Kelley and start his program. She wasn't doing well with Kelley either, and I said, "Kelley, what's going on?"

He said, “Okay, Gonzalez, I'm going to teach you about medicine.”  So I got on the phone, the girl's mother was on the phone, a very sweet woman, kind of Northern California, into meditation. She started to talk about what she was doing with her daughter, she said," I take my daughter down to the beach, and I have her think positive thoughts and I have her draw white cells on the sand and think about them attacking the tumor.  I've read all the meditation and raw food diet books", and Kelley said -- this is the first time I've ever heard him get angry--he said, "You take those books and you throw them in the garbage, and you go out to the 7-11 or the local K-Mart and buy that girl electronic games and have her start watching six hours a day of violent cartoon shows on TV."

Well, I thought this was a big joke, and I started to get off the phone. I thought he's having a nervous breakdown, right in front of me, but he wasn't kidding. One had thing I learned about Kelley, when you got a tongue-lashing, you listen and you listen carefully. You don't ask why until later.  Now, he had that woman in tears. He said, "No meditation, no white cells drawn in the sand, no thinking positive thoughts". He said,  "I want your daughter to get so mean and nasty that instead of loving her brother, she kicks him in the shins."

Now Dr. Kelley got off the phone and I said, “Kelley, what the hell are you doing, you're crazy”.  He said, “I'm not crazy, I'm trying to save that girl's life. Would you rather have her die?”  I said, “Well, what are you doing?”  He said, “She's a leukemia patient, she's too alkaline, her sympathetic system is too weak, she's already in this very alkaline state and meditation, relaxation and positive thinking pushes her more alkaline. It turns off the sympathetic system - the whole point in biofeedback and meditation is to tone down sympathetic function. There are dozens of studies in orthodox literature documenting that.  That's wonderful if you have a strong sympathetic system, but if your sympathetic system is too weak and you tone it down, you could die.”

That girl was dying because her sympathetic system was too weak and the parasympathetic system was too strong. Her mother was putting her on all these different things that she'd learned about, which was further weakening her sympathetic system, the cell membranes were getting leakier and leakier, the cells were reproducing faster and faster, so even Kelley couldn't get her well.

Well, that mother had enough sense to listen to Dr. Kelley. She went out and bought electronic games, even though it was against everything she believed in. She had her daughter watch aggressive cartoons, six hours a day and within two weeks, her white count stopped increasing and within four weeks, it started to drop.  When I saw that - and I wouldn't believe it if you told me this story - I don't expect you to believe it. But it shows you how complicated cancer therapy can be and how easy it can be,  how easily it can be explained, if you start thinking about nutrition, and I'm going to stop this lecture right there.